January 10, 2024—David Zwirner is pleased to announce a new season of Dialogues: The David Zwirner Podcast, which will debut on January 17, 2024. Curator and writer Helen Molesworth returns as host, kicking off Season 8 with a conversation between artist Lauren Halsey and musician and artist George Clinton. The season will conclude with a special episode on music hosted by artist R. Crumb and friends. With episodes released every Wednesday, the Season 8 lineup features:
Lauren Halsey and George Clinton Episode 1 | January 17
Artist Lauren Halsey and musician and artist George Clinton of Parliament-Funkadelic open up about their close friendship, from their first meeting to the ongoing and fruitful collaborations since. Though from different generations, both make work suffused with complex metaphors, experiments in tone and color, and, of course, the power of the funk, fostering a unique and mutually influential friendship.
Laurie Simmons and Carroll Duhham Episode 2 | January 24
In the first episode of Helen’s series of interviews with creative couples, artists Laurie Simmons and Carroll Dunham give Helen an unvarnished look into nearly five decades of partnership. The veteran art world couple share how they’ve managed it all, from cultivating creative independence while raising a family together, to navigating artistic competition and building support networks, all while enduring the inevitable ups and downs of an artist’s career.
Hua Hsu
Episode 3 | January 31
Helen interviews Hua Hsu, recipient of the Pulitzer Prize for his 2022 memoir Stay True, widely acclaimed as an indelible account of loss. They delve into some of the book’s many other facets, among them the importance of culture, taste, memory, and the impossible category of “Asian American.”
On Vermeer with Lawrence Weschler and Claudia Swan Episode 4 | February 7
The seventeenth-century Dutch master Johannes Vermeer made a lot of headlines last year: he was the subject of a blockbuster retrospective at the Rijksmuseum, as well as some highly controversial literature that proposed some of his works were not painted by him, but by his daughter Maria. Helen invites writer Lawrence Weschler and scholar Claudia Swan to interrogate what is at stake—politically, nationally, financially, and art historically—in reattributing these works.
Rujeko Hockley and Hank Willis Thomas Episode 5 | February 14
In the second episode in Helen’s interview series with creative couples, artist Hank Willis Thomas and Whitney Museum of American Art curator Rujeko Hockley get intimate about the unique challenges and rewards of being married and working in the same field, navigating their public and private lives in an industry where the boundaries between art and life are sometimes blurred.
Ira Sachs
Episode 6 | February 21
Ira Sachs’s most recent film, Passages, debuted in 2023 to wide acclaim for its unflinching portrayal of human desire. Helen goes deep with the filmmaker on the psychology of his finely wrought characters, Ira’s many influences, from Jean-Luc Godard to Chantal Akerman, and how film holds a mirror up to our world.
On Hilma af Klint with Julia Voss and Briony Fer Episode 7 | March 6
Hilma af Klint has captured the attention of contemporary art audiences like few other artists of the fin de siècle. Yet she has been long misunderstood and understudied, a revolutionary beyond her times. How should we consider her now? Where (and when) is her true place in art history? Art historian Briony Fer and Julia Voss, af Klint’s biographer, discuss what it means to make art in the way af Klint did, communing with a “higher power,” as well has her many interests, from the planetary and environmental to the mystic and technological.
R. Crumb’s Radio Music Hour Episode 8 | March 13
Artist R. Crumb is a legend in the blues world, not only for his wide ranging and esoteric knowledge of the genre and numerous illustrations of its icons, but also for his formidable collection of rare 78 RPM records, modestly estimated at around eight thousand and growing. In this very special episode, he visits his friends and musicians John Heneghan and Eden Brower, also avid collectors, to play “stump the chump,” with John spinning his most obscure gems to see if he can best the master.
About Dialogues
Debuting in 2018, Dialogues has an audience of over one million listeners worldwide, further expanding the gallery’s already robust storytelling arm. Together with David Zwirner’s publications, narrative videos, online editorial features, and public programming, it engages the gallery’s wide cultural audience.
Dialogues: The David Zwirner Podcast is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Play Music, Stitcher, and most major podcast applications. To learn more about Dialogues: The David Zwirner Podcast, visit davidzwirner.com/podcast.
